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Refuting Kafirgirls’ attacks on the Prophet Muhammad’s marriages [Part 2]

Posted in Refutation of Kafir Girl's "Hadith analysis." by muslimsuperhero on April 29, 2010

 

As promised, I’m back with my second installation refuting Kafirgirls claims about the marriages of the Prophet Muhammad [saas]. (Dont worry, she hasn’t said anything new. Actual knowledgeable Muslims have known about these issues and soundly answered them a bajillion times before… but for some reason Atheists like to beat a dead horse).

This time I will be dealing with her claim that Muhammad [saas] is oh-so-horrible for marrying a 9 year old girl, and of course I’m referrring to the Lady Ayesha [raa]. Her claim [all expletives deleted] is as follows:

 

Mohammed married Aisha approximately 3 years after Khadija died. He was around 53 years old. She was 6.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:

Narrated ‘Ursa:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

 

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:

Narrated Hisham’s father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

 

He married her when she was six, and they consummated the marriage when she was nine years old. Know what I was doing when I was nine? Going to school and running around with my siblings. Know what I wasn’t doing when I was nine? Having sex. I was too busy being a kid, playing with Barbies.

 

A few points need to be mentioned about the Prophet Muhammad’s [saas] marriage to Ayesha [raa].

  • Point number 1: We believe, and all Muslims believe, that Allah [swt] (or God Almighty, for you English speaking people) ordered the Prophet Muhammad [saas] to marry Lady Ayesha [raa]. I know, I know “How convenient.” -But really this is the whole point. This is what it comes down to. We believe the Prophet Muhammad WAS a Prophet. She doesn’t. And if she believed Muhammad was a Prophet, the marriage to Ayesha is a non-issue, because what God orders him to do, he does. IF she doesn’t believe he was a Prophet [saas], then this is the real issue, and not his marriage to Ayesha [raa]. So, again, what we need to ask ourselves before criticizing the Prophet Muhammad [saas] on any issue is, is Muhammad [saas] a Prophet? Then we can come back to the Ayesha [raa] issue later. A good article to get Kafirgirl [and other like-minded Atheists] started on using rational analysis to deduce that Muhammad IS a Prophet can be found here.
  • Point Number 2: Many countries have arbitrary age limits when it comes to marriage. In Madagascar, a woman can get legally married at the age of 14. In France the age was only recently raised from 15 to 18. In Kenya [predominately Christian] the legal age of marriage is 14. In Taiwan, women can get married at the age of 16. Thailand: 15 with court approval. Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, and Cyprus all allow 16 year old girls to marry [In fact the majority of European countries view 16 as the ‘marriagable age.”] Canada allows 14 year old girls to marry with Judicial consent. In the U.S. it is based on State Law, allowing girls as young as 15 to get married in Georgia, Hawaii, and Missouri. In “special cause” cases, a 13 year old girl can get married in New Hampshire, and in Massechusets a girl can get married at the age of 12 with parental consent! -The point is, with all of this arbitrary crap, how can we figure out who is right and who is wrong? And what are we basing this on? Just pure conjecture, it seems. It really makes humanity look like we can’t get our heads screwed on straight on even the simplest of issues! But, lo and behold, with the Prophet Muhammad’s [saas] marriage to Ayesha [raa], this apparently perplexing question was answered for us: A girl cannot be legally married until she has reached the age of puberty. If it comes early, [as in the case with Ayesha] or if it comes later [as is the majority of cases] -either way, puberty=she can get married. This was one of the main purposes for this marriage: To answer a question that we clearly cannot answer for ourselves.
  • Point Number 3: Mental maturity IS taken into account. Most people don’t know this, but as the great American scholar has pointed out in this video, Ayesha had stopped playing with dolls at the time of her marriage to the Prophet Muhammad [saas]. -This was a sign of womanhood and mental maturity in Arab culture. [There is a hadith, which Kafirgirl quotes, about her playing dolls in the presence of the Prophet Muhammad, but this hadith does not state that they were married at the time this occurred. Considering they were betrothed for a few years before the marriage was official (i.e. consumated) there was plenty of time for her to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet. But once she left off of this girlish habit, and well after she had experienced her menses, the marriage became official]. To recap, a girl who goes through BOTH physical, AND mental maturity can be married according to our Sacred Law, as per the example set by the Prophet Muhammad’s [saas] marriage to Ayesha [raa]. -So while the “great” Atheist countries go crazy trying to figure out what age a girl can be married, the Muslims solved the confusion long ago.
  • Point 4: The definition of a child is, for the most part, subjective and based more on culture, external influences, and personal opinion than anything. In many Western countries, many 20 year olds could still be considered children, particularly in terms of mentality and entertainment preferences. For example, it’s not uncommon to find 20 year olds still playing video games, living with their parents, living responsibility-free, etc. Yet in many underdeveloped countries, 8 year olds are running the family store and given responsibilities that most Westerners would never give an 8 year old. It all has to do with mentality, and one culture has no right to criticize another, since the entire topic is so subjective.
  • Final Point: The marriage, by all accounts, was a happy one. Sure they had their occasional tiff, but this is because they were both human beings. They were not angels or Divine in any way, and Muslims have never claimed such a thing. The point I’m making is Ayesha [raa] clearly does not embody the personality of an “abused child.” -She is quite fiesty, as even Kafirgirl points out in her slanderous article, and, after the Prophet Muhammad’s [saas] death often speaks of him in glowing terms. Her depth of love and attatchment is beyond question. And as the old metaphor goes, you can’t pour water through a dirty pipe and have it come out clean on the other end. Her passion and admiration for him is a full testament that the relationship, far from being abusive or something Muslims should feel ashamed of, is in fact one of the greatest love stories in human history, unmatched in it’s beauty.
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    Her final critique of the Prophet Muhammad’s [saas] marriage to Ayesha [raa] can be summarized as an attack on Ayesha and Muhammad [saas] both. She claims that the Prophet Muhammad [saas] treated Ayesha differently, insinuates that Muhammad [saas] threatened to divorce the elderly Sawdah because she was no longer attractive to him [this is based on a story only found in late Qu’ranic Exegesis by scholars, and is not contained in any authentic hadith that I’m aware of, and thus, can be discounted], She also seemingly refers to a hadith where the Prophet Muhammad [saas] reportedly hit Ayesha [An implication of an abusive relationship] -but the link she provides to said hadith brings no such hadith or story, but rather merely a link to a University of Southern California page where they have translated excerpts of Sahih Bukhari [But don’t worry, I’ve searched the entire page and couldn’t find the Hadith she is referencing… maybe later she can actually give us a source for this tale].

    I really didn’t want to spend so much time on just one of her claims, but unfortunately she packs so many false allegations and implications into such a small space, which require a bit more clarification than I like to sit and type out. For that, Kafirgirl, I’m mad! GRRR! I don’t like to sit down for massive periods of time, and I’ve been here for far too long untangling your devious little webs of deceit!

    Anyhow, I probably will need several more sections to untie the knots and reveal the truth about her hit-piece on the Prophet [saas] and his marriages, so be sure and check back if ye be true fans of the Superhero! 😉

     

  • Read Part 3.
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    Former Atheist Karen Meek embraces Islam

    Posted in Atheist-to-Muslim Testimonials by muslimsuperhero on April 28, 2010

     

    “I grew up thinking religion was ridiculous…” -Karen Meek

     

    Five months before their marriage, Karen Meek’s fiancé told her that he was becoming a Muslim. Ms. Meek, an atheist, was taken aback.
    “I thought he was being brainwashed into something,” she said. “All of a sudden he stopped drinking alcohol. He wanted to pray every day. He stopped eating pork.”

    For months, Eric Meek, a lapsed Baptist, had studied Islam without telling her. Now, when he went to work, Ms. Meek poured over his books and videos, trying to understand his faith.

    She never expected to be attracted to Islam.

    “I grew up thinking religion was ridiculous,” said Ms. Meek, 33, of Lewisville. “I didn’t believe in God. I had no idea how the universe was created and, frankly, didn’t care.”

    She said Islam had a logic to it that she couldn’t resist.

    “Coming from an atheist background, I had an easier time accepting Islam than a Christian because I didn’t have to unlearn or give up any beliefs,” she said.

    After getting married, she prayed for the first time while her husband was at work. She learned how from a book.

    “Until this point, I had done everything privately, without telling him,” she said. “I did not want to join a religion just because he did. I wanted to discover it on my own.”

    She and her husband began meeting with other Muslims to study the Quran, the holy book of Islam. Eventually, she made her profession of faith.

    Her choice of religions stunned her parents.

    “One day she came and she wearing a scarf and a dress down to her ankles,” said her father, Ray Allred of Carrollton. “I was shocked.”
    He said he was estranged from his daughter for a time because of her religion. They’re close now, though he fears for her safety since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

    “You want to love your child, but when they do something so foreign to you, it’s very difficult,” he said. “I’d give anything if she hadn’t adopted this religion.”

    Those comments were echoed by Jane Barrett of Flower Mound, who’s Ms. Meek’s mother. She said she especially dislikes the hijab, or head covering, that her daughter wears.

    “Karen is such a pretty girl with beautiful hair,” she said.

    Ms. Meek said she understands. After becoming a Muslim, it took her many months to adopt Islamic dress.

    “I would wear the hijab places where people didn’t know me,” she said and laughed. Now, she wears it all the time — even to work, where she is an accounting clerk for a restaurant chain.

    She said embracing Islam has caused her to see life in a new way.

    “Going from not believing in God to believing in God is amazing,” she said. “Islam opened my eyes to so many things I had taken for granted, mostly that life is a gift.”

     

    Source: http://www.dallasnews.com/religion/stories/092102dnrelrerun4.3fbb4e63.html

     

    Hilarious story of a brother who was raised Atheist, and after investigation, became Muslim.

    Posted in Atheist-to-Muslim Testimonials, Videos and other Media by muslimsuperhero on April 28, 2010

     

    This is good for a laugh… one of the more hilarious conversion stories I’ve ever heard! His parents raised him as an Atheist, but he went on a quest studying all religions until he finally found his home: Islam, the religion of Truth.

    It’s divided into two parts.

     

     

     

    KafirLoser [I mean, girl] on Muhammad’s marriages. -Part 1.

    Posted in Refutation of Kafir Girl's "Hadith analysis." by muslimsuperhero on April 28, 2010

     


    The silly goose is at it again with a new diatribe against the Prophet Muhammad [saas]. This time she isn’t focusing on the Qu’ran, but instead is focusing on Muhammad’s [saas] plural marriages.

    She is using the age-old attack against the Prophet [saas]… accusing him of being a womanizer, lecher, pedophile, etc. Her vile and low-blow [and false] exclamations begin with a baseless claim that the Prophet Muhammad [saas] married Khadijah -his first wife to whom he remained devoted to alone for their entire 25 years of marriage- only for the sake of greed and worldly success. She was wealthy, after all, and the Prophet [saas] was an orphan with little to no clout in the Arab tribal society at that time.

    Her baseless ideas and refutable claims are quoted below [but I edited out her filthy language, as usual]:

     

    Mohammed was around 25 when he married his first wife, Khadija bint Khuwailid. She was 40 years old at the time. Whoo! Cougar! Khadija was a business woman, and she was extremely wealthy… She had inherited her father’s merchanting business, which, by the way, she operated. He worked for her. My kinda lady!

    As long as Khadija was alive, Mohammed took no other wives. A lot of Muslims say this is because he was such a sweet and faithful man. They’ll argue that all of his other marriages after Khadija’s death were purely for political reasons. That’s why he didn’t have more than one wife while she was alive.

    Know what I think? I think old homegirl wore the pants in that relationship… So he stayed married to only her for about 25 years, until she died.

     


    This is a convenient way for Kafirgirl [and idiots like her] to explain away one of the most profound proofs of Muhammad’s [saas] lack of desire for worldly gain [be it women, wealth, etc.] … if she can “prove” that Muhammad [saas] only remained devoted to Khadijah because he risked losing worldly status, [and consequently, after her death married a number of women, whereby showing his “true self” as I’m sure she would like to think] then the entire case of those who wish to portray Muhammad’s [saas] marriages in a sensitive light is demolished.

    However this argument is refuted by a couple of points. First, if the Prophet Muhammad [saas] was simply a “closet lecher” as she is implying, then why wouldn’t he have had his way with numerous women before Khadijah? After all he didn’t marry Khadijah until he was 25 years old. -And he was not an unattractive man, as the hadith literature informs us… and the society at the time surely would have allowed for this… Even Ayesha [raa] recounts in a hadith in Sahih Bukhari that Arabia before Islam was quite the haven for premarital and adulterous [and even incestuous, according to other reports] sexual activity, mentioning the confusion that often arose from the numerous illegitimate children that resulted from such promiscuity. His fellow Arabs certainly wouldn’t have looked down upon him… He would have had a free pass…

    But yet we have it from his own confession that he never once committed any sexual act until his marriage with Khadijah. We may believe his claim of chastity quite easily, because had he been fibbing, and had he been previously promiscuous, his enemies who would later compose stinging invectives against him would have surely used his past indiscrepencies against him. However, the sources are silent, no evil-doers brought this point as a mark against him, and none of his faithful followers -who recorded all sorts of reports about him and from him without hesitation- ever mention any sexual indescretion on his part pre-Khadijah.

    The second point that needs to be made in this regard is that SHE [Khadijah] offered to marry HIM [not the other way around]. She even gave her reasons, according to one source, stating, “I like you because of your fair-dealing, your uprightness, good character, and truthfulness.” -Even the most embittered historian accepts that Muhammad [saas] had a fairly spotless record pre-prophethood. He was nicknamed Al-Ameen [The Trustworthy] and it seems in keeping with logic that many women would be attracted to such a man. But in the end, the proposal he accepted was from Khadijah, a woman 15 years his senior, twice widowed, and moving in to her maturity. I think we can’t help but admit that his motivations for marrying her were the same reasons she gave for marrying him, namely, her good and pious character.

     

    Check out Part 2.